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    Too many options...too much money.

    It was a rainy day. Just a good day to get other things done.
    The 'popular' phone book in my town is due to come out in January. As of this morning, the advertising rep had yet to contact me about renewing my current ad...so I called them.

    Deadline to renew is November 2nd....customer rep is based out of Wichita, some 3 hours away. So instead of meeting in person, I spent a good hour on the phone discussing options; probably better anyhow.

    This is what I 'bought' (keep in mind my current ad in their book is a cheesy and minimally effective $39/month in-column black text over yellow ad):

    "Sponsored" a "Lawn & Tree Care Guide" to be placed in front of the landscaping/lawn care headings. This is a 3/4 page guide (in color with photo) with a 'dollar bill' sized ad placed underneath which is my space to place my advertisement. $135/month...a deal?

    Two in-column text ads, somewhat like what I have now, 2" long with basic information. One paced under "Lawn & Landscape Maintenance" and the other under "Landscaping Contractors." $30 each/month.

    Free (pointless) listing under "Landscape Designers & Consultants"

    Internet directory (yellowpages.com along with a few other directory sites) in which the rep found a way to bump my listing above the other 'top' company here with minimal expense (all dealt with a point system). Also has a link to place a "free call" to my company, a link to my website, a 'more information page', my logo placed onto heading, etc. Cost $50/month.

    All came in at right about my $250/month budget to spend with this particular company. I only hope the pay-off is much larger.

    What I don't like about phone directory companies...they waste your time listing the most expensive options first....they really don't know true effecting advertising (though they'll led you to believe they do). $15/month to place my heading on the internet in Red? She said it's very effective, but moreover I'd need the 'upgrade points' to bump my internet ad above all others. Yes, it is true red draws in the human eye.....but as she was blabbering her sales pitch I was online looking at the difference between black and red listings....minimal differences. Spending $180/year (the same cost as listing my company name in red on the internet) for trailer/truck signage, or lawn signs, or even just used to wash the trucks at the car wash on a regular basis would yield much greater results? (com'on, they ought to offer a step below...a listing in Green for $7.50/month since green is the compliment to red....theory says once you see red [which catches your eye over all other colors], your eye then seeks the complimentary color....*soon to be offered MM suggestion*) Need I say phone directories are very wealthy? What is their cost to change a normal black listing over to red? Ahh, oh well, if I wasn't too concerned with exposure I wouldn't have cared too much where my listing was placed. Come next year I'll endure the same sales speal all over again.

    P.S. Why did I care about this whole internet deal anywho? The rep spouted off #s of people in my area performing a search for Landscape Contractors on their site last year: 39. For Lawn Maintenance: 25. I only did because this past year I've had a few individuals contact me through a email address specifically linked from my website. And I know google isn't too found of my site. I believe they found my website through another internet listing from the 'other' phone book. Simply put, people are beginning to turn to the internet instead of a cumbersome book to find phone numbers. (or so I'd think)

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    I get just as many solicitation call as i do job calls from the yellow pages. Seems like it sometimes anyhow.

    Also geographical problems,,,,,,,,,, i turn down 100 calls or more per year, just out of the way.


    But............... on the other hand it draws bigger jobs,,,,,,, 5k and up.

    Its all about total circulation but my ad runs Over $500 per month including internet ................... in black.

    Worth it? Dont matter to me,, i was just as well without it as i am with it.

    Also,,, my ad rep is up my ass all the time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, trying to sell special features and circulations,,,, calling 6 mos before deadline bugging me.................................... Ive cussed him out twice. He keeps calling anyhow.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Seascape
      I get just as many solicitation call as i do job calls from the yellow pages. Seems like it sometimes anyhow.

      Also geographical problems,,,,,,,,,, i turn down 100 calls or more per year, just out of the way.


      But............... on the other hand it draws bigger jobs,,,,,,, 5k and up.

      Its all about total circulation but my ad runs Over $500 per month including internet ................... in black.

      Worth it? Dont matter to me,, i was just as well without it as i am with it.

      Also,,, my ad rep is up my ass all the time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, trying to sell special features and circulations,,,, calling 6 mos before deadline bugging me.................................... Ive cussed him out twice. He keeps calling anyhow.
      At least your rep calls you!! The 'other' book I have an ad in was calling 9 months before the ad expired....I refused to even talk to them so soon, simply because it WAS THE DEAD OF WINTER and I had NO way to gauge the effectiveness of the ad yet.

      I didn't mention, by the rep also attempted to sell me on their web design/hosting for $49/month. The rep attempted to make it sounds like an awesome deal. Then she asked what I paid per month and happily told her "$4/month hosting, $8/year domain....I do the work myself." She proceeded to shut up and move onto other things.

      On second thought...(and why did I think of this after the fact)....I shoulda used the money on a larger postcard campaign. Seems I made much more money off postcards than I did off directory print ads.

      Mike - have you ever tried postcards???

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      • #4
        do you get the companion book out there? i put my block add in the one here for $6.00 more a month. there was only one other block add in the small one. i had good sucess with the yellow page listing and got a few jobs from the internet listing they give you.

        steve

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        • #5
          Originally posted by delasgh
          do you get the companion book out there? i put my block add in the one here for $6.00 more a month. there was only one other block add in the small one. i had good sucess with the yellow page listing and got a few jobs from the internet listing they give you.

          steve
          I don't think so???

          All we have is AT&T, YellowBook, and a new one coming out next year, PDC.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MASTERMOWER
            I don't think so???

            All we have is AT&T, YellowBook, and a new one coming out next year, PDC.
            verizon yellow pages is the book and super pages is the internet. we have yellowbook too. they buy their adds from verizon here.

            steve

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