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    Here is a business ide a for you. We bought a company last year that specialized in pet waste removal. The guy approached us showing his tax returns for the last 3 years, He cleared over 30 k from 40k in revenue. He worked from Monday thru Thursday, the hours of 7:30am thru 2:30 pm. He charged about $8.00 a dog. He would pick up the waste using a small landscape type rake sweeping it into a custodian's dust pan that had been wrapped in a bag, more like had one been caught over one edge then brought to the arm of the dust pan, wrapped around the handle, and clamped with a spring type wood clamp he had affixed to the handle. On the way back to his little Lowes purchased trailer, that he pulled behind his Geo Tracker, with his trash cans bungee'd to the rails and his storage bins screwed to the floor, He would hang a service card and a dog biscuit for each dog on the customers door. He would seal the bag used on each property and place it in a trash can that was also lined with another bag. The sealed bag being placed in a bag with other bags evidetly helped hold down the smell bag.

    The vast majority of his clients were residential, however the last stop each day was one of four large apartment complexes where he would pick up that product from their dog walk areas, seal it in a bag and place it in the trash can. He would seal the trash can bag and leave it in the days apartment complex dumpster. At one complex they also paid for him to pick up trash around the property. He was actually sweethearting the apartment complexes since he was using their dumpsters for product disposal.

    All he took home with him was the trailer which had his company name "Dirty Dog, Pet Waste Removal Service, A phone # And his Website address. He had a bucket of disinfectant that he would leave the rake in overnight, as I would gather that there is some worry about disease transmission being possible from one canine to another.

    Here is a link to a Detroit Free Press article about a sevice near there: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/n...9_20010219.htm

    This from The Dallas Morning News http://www.pet-butler.com/pet-butler...dmn9262000.htm

    aother link: http://www.pet-butler.com/pet-butler...irBusiness.asp

    And another: http://www.pet-butler.com/pet-butler...es/gotpoop.asp

    And naturally the have their own trade association: http://www.apaws.org/

    Who has this to say about disinfecting:

    Disinfecting Requirements talks about disenfecting tools and shoes with a cleaner formulated specifically to kill canine parvo virus.

    So if you decide to try this out, these folks have that website and I would imagine that the advice they are able to provide is more than worth the cost of membership. This man may have been a member of it. I mean he was awfully fastidious about disenfecting, and storage of wastes to be disposed of. I would think that he had some help from somewhere to figure this out.


    Of course I gave them a lot of "product" referenced greif for about 3 weeks, including one morning when I, with a sincere face proceeded to apologize for being so "Productty", And giving them so much "product", about the "product" business we found ourselves in.

    I understand that in several cities, apartment complexes are requiring this service of some of the biggest maintenance contractors in this business.

    Finally you have to admit we have all struggled with a lot of issues in this business. We don't get paid to scrape it off of Spray boots, clean it of of mower tires out of the floor matts in you new one ton, and at least since we are already there it would be nice to pad the bill with the homeowners permission. Lexington is a city of 250,000 souls and until this guy walked in I had never heard of such a thing. Come to find out there was another guy doing the same kinda thing, though not as well organized as this young man.

    You wouldn't have to have employees, wonder if they were abusing your equipment to the point of breakage, would have less exposure to rising fuel cost. Workmans comp would be eliminated, since it doesn't cover the owner any way. I would presume that your liability insurance would be cheaper from the business side, while the truck policies would be about the same.
    I would bet that trailer and all this fellow had less than a grand invested in a company that paid him 30k a year for four days work!

    I know some of you are going to think that I am full of "product", but I am just reporting on a trend. I didn't develop these ideas on my own. See for yourself, I got all those links , just by typing pet waste removal service into the search engine at dogpile, no less (anyone know why google keeps giving a not available message the last 3 days?) One other reason to consider it is one of the articles mentions it picks up during the winter snowfall season. "You got snow on the ground, its easy to find brown"

    By the way, what would you like to bet that entrepenuer magazine already has a manual on how to start a Pet waste Removal Business. They don't, but oh well maybe one of us should write one

    Bill
    Tis easier to take someone with a good personality and teach them the skills they need, than it will be to take a skilled person and change their personality

  • #2
    How many contracts did he have? Do i understand you ? Each stop payed $8 per dog they owned? Was this a daily service? weekly?
    mike
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    • #3
      Mike,

      it was something I tried to stay out of, as I was afraid they were going to drop it in my lap. As to your other question, he visited almost all of the properties 1 time per week. From what I gather there were something on the order of 20 stops per day. He had a half a dozen that would be visited twice per week. Also one of the four apartment complexes was only serviced every other week.

      His pricing was based on per dog on a normal sized lawn. I would think that lawns larger than 8,000 sq ft would need to be charged in a different manner. We can exercise control over that by targeting the neighborhoods where he puts out flyers. I would be half tempted to market that kind of service to a few of my lakeside neighborhoods for geese droppings. I don't know if it is like that where your are but Lexington seems to have a resident flock of geese. I think the familys are actually called gaggles of geese, but you get the idea.

      If your interested in seeing some of those articles, just type in pet waste removal on Dogpile or Google. There is one in Brookfield, Ohio that charges $10 per pet, but I guess that you would have to find what the market would bear. One observation, as I stated the other night this man had a web site, and had registered Dirty_Dog on the internet. Do look at the one called pet janitor, he also sells bags and dispensor for leashes used for walking the dirty dog. I am not sure where you might by them but add in sales would be nice.

      Best success

      Bill
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      • #4
        Bill,
        I worked a site in a highly upscale area yesterday. I saw 2 seperate removal companies go through. There are only 4 houses in the direction they went on this street. They both had new trucks little rangers i think, $1000 decal jobs. You have me thinking though. cant see having much in it really. Marketing would be high but only for a minute. Assign 1 man on it i might make money just to finance the gig. You think?
        mike
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        • #5
          We have one man running it right now, and lets face it, if you can generate a good income, not have to work as many hours, and not have the equipment expense, employee retention hassles etc. maybe one man shows are the way to go.

          As for market, and I hope Mr Nilson has some insight on the subject, about all scoops is doing is hanging door hangers. Also I noted Pet Janitor is selling waste pickup bags that fit on your leash. I don't know if your area is like mine, but failing to pick up makes you eligible for a $250 fine if the property owner complains.

          As an incentive I think a $2 bonus for each signed might work, or for that matter you could give your scoops person the first weeks fee, say half if they stay 6 months and the other half if they stay and stay happy all year
          Tis easier to take someone with a good personality and teach them the skills they need, than it will be to take a skilled person and change their personality

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          • #6
            You know at first I must admitt that I thought this was insane! But after reading the articles, thinking avout it and checking out some websites there actually may be something here. Thanks for the info and the ideal.
            Brian Moyer
            Moyer Lawn Care
            Lewis, Indiana

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            • #7
              Believe it or not I have been in this business full time for about 10 years, and before we got approached by this guy, looking to sell out, I had never seen, heard, or even read an add for such a thing. A day or so after we heard this guy out, I was doing a crack spraying application on a regional department stores parking lot, as I spun my spray unit around, here goes the Pooper Scooper Service guy by. Like Mike said about his area, these guys had been around for 2-5 years, and were making money, yet drawing very little attention to themselves. 5 years and I had never seen either of them out an about.
              Tis easier to take someone with a good personality and teach them the skills they need, than it will be to take a skilled person and change their personality

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              • #8
                None in my area

                I read a bunch of the links, Does anyone know what they do with the waste??? where do they put it??? any ideas???
                I do not see a service like this in my area so I may try and kick this off I have an 18 y/o who needs a job so looks like a good plan LOL
                Thanks
                Dayak
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                • #9
                  the guy we bought from had sweetheart deals with 8 different apartment complexes. He cut them a break on price, in exchange for using their dumpsters to dispose of his waste. I guess he would try to time it to be within a day or 2 of their colloection days. He was charging them $35 to collect waste, and 35 to pick up trash per visit and dump their waste, plus what he had collected else where.
                  Tis easier to take someone with a good personality and teach them the skills they need, than it will be to take a skilled person and change their personality

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                  • #10
                    IF YOU LIVE IN AN AREA WITH A HIGH DEER POPULATION, YOU WON'T HAVE MUCH POOP. I HAVE THREE DOGS AND THIER POOP MAGICALLY DISAPPEARS EVERY NIGHT WHILE WE'RE INSIDE SLEEPING. MAYBE IT'S THE POOP FAIRY!

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                    • #11
                      Deer are rare enough around here that except for 2 very rural areas of this county, if a deer shows up and someone catches a picture of it, it will probably make the newspaper. Rabbits also eat some of their own feces. If you ever look at rabbit droppings there is often green balls as well as black. The green balls are undigested food that the rabbit will eat to get the nutrients that were unaccessible the first time.
                      Tis easier to take someone with a good personality and teach them the skills they need, than it will be to take a skilled person and change their personality

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                      • #12
                        Damn bill you dont have deer running around down there!!!???
                        We are covered w/ them here. My most generating areas are swamped w/ them. see them everyday. I hunt so i love seeing them. The homeowners hate them cause they destroy the scapes. Maybe they dont know they clean up after the dogs? Hell i didnt know. anyhow this thread caught my attention because im looking for somthing. Im tossing a few ideas around. I guess i just want to branch out on something. This happen every year about this time when i have a bunch of money sitting around. I want to branch out w/ something that will feed my maintenance gig. Waste removal could i suppose but the thread about line marking really stuck to me. Im not convinced about the $500 machine that phil suggested (i dont know that you saw it) im thinking of the power drive unit but it is costly. The $500 unit made me think maybe i should manufature marking equipment vs buying it. I also have another idea im tossing around but im not comfortable pouring it out on the net yet. Im not sure what i have yet. The idea came to one day and i havent figured out if its a real real real good idea or if its a real real real bad idea. I need to share it w/ someone but i havent a clue who or how to protect it.
                        mike
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                        • #13
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                          • #14
                            Just a comment. The rakes and other tools need to be sterilized in between each and every job. Maybe while en route to next job, but waiting until the next day will do absolutely nothing to control the spread of disease.

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                            • #15
                              http://www.apaws.org/

                              Hello
                              has anyone else tried to register on this site??? I could not get registered and I also wrote them and still have not gotten a reply back .... does anyone know anything .. does it still work is it still there ????
                              Thanks
                              Dayak
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