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    I used my new RedMax trimmer (BCZ2600S) for the first time today. I'm impressed with the power, but upset about a couple quirks going on. For one it seems like it vibrates excessively. I have to look into the head yet and see if the line is wound properly. The next issue is that the line kinks during running. I believe it is kinking at the eyelet on the head. Does that say something about the power or the quality of the line that came on it? I've never seen that happen with the Echo line I have been using. I will switch it out and see what happens. The line on it is clear and seems to be of .095 dia.The kinks may be what is causing some of the vibration after you advance line. It seemed to run a bit smoother if I fed it out and trimmed it by hand, until it got kinky again. I need to play with it some more and see. I didn't have time to look at it much on the job.
    I am hoping some of the vibration goes away as it breaks in. Have any of you noticed the problem with the line. It also does not seem to want to snip the line off very well during advancing once it is kinked. It barely hits the bottom of the cutting blade. That can probably be adjusted down a bit with a washer or two.
    Anyone else notice these problems? Thank you kindly.
    Last edited by hardboiled; 04-21-05, 09:20 PM. Reason: missed a couple letters

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    Is nobody using the RedMax trimmer line? I said it was clear, it is really opaque. I looked in the head and it was wound without any evident problem, and comes off the spool fine (no welding, which I have never experienced before , but have heard of). It holds up well, as I only had to advance it a couple times due to wear in approximately 500 feet of trimming against concrete edges (where an edger wouldn't get it). If you were to pull on the ends of a paper clip to straighten it out, this is what the line looks like after a few advances.
    Today I try a different line and tweak the carb to see if I get less vibration. I'd still like some feedback from those who use a RedMax. Thanks again

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    • #3
      I've NEVER experienced the problem you describe with my BCZ2600S's. EVER. Something is seriously wrong with the line or the way it is wound. Remove ALL of the line, put the head back together, and fire it up. DO NOT FULL THROTTLE IT, OR IT WILL OVERSPEED!! Run it up off of idle ( just a little) and see if it vibrates. If it does, go back to the dealer and insist the entire head be replaced. If it doesn't, rewind the head with NEW line, not the old stuff.

      Like I said, I have NEVER experienced it. My guess is the line is wound wrong. Mine all feed out smooth as silk, and run without any real vibration. From the way you describe it, the line is wound WRONG. Use LESS than the recommended maximum line length when you rewind it. Also, don't wind it too tight, or leave it wound too slack either. Everything needs to be smooth and even. I used to run .095 round on mine, but now use Gator Line .095 square. A little more noise from the line, but still no issues like you describe.

      Woody
      Woody

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      • #4
        I just purchased a Husv. this week and i"m haveing some problems as well. It will run great for about 30 min. then it acts like it's running out of gas. Boggs down, pump the trigger and reves up and then boggs down. So, I shut it down start it up and it will run good again for 5 min. or so it all starts again. Any suggestions. Dealer already told me he would take it in and look at it but who has time for that. I need my tools.

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        • #5
          Bulldog:

          Next time it starts to do it, open the gas cap enough to let some air in, then close it back up. If it runs fine again for a while, the vent in the gas cap is defective. It's the most likely cause, and a quick and easy fix (a new cap).

          Woody
          Woody

          "Those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither security nor liberty." ---Benjamin Franklin

          "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." ---Abraham Lincoln

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          • #6
            Thanks Woody, I will try all your suggestions this morning. We got some rain so I'm not heading out right away. I'll post back with the results. One guess is the line is old and set in the tight curl of being on the head. The weird thing is, it kinks in the opposite direction of what you would think the rotational forces would cause.

            Sorry Bullgdog, I don't know much about the Huskys, but it could be debris in the carb, kinked fuel pick up hose. Next time it bogs vent the cap and see if that helps, maybe a tank venting issue? If it seems to happen when you turn it at an angle it could be water trapped in the air cleaner cover, ingested upon turning the trimmer; or that the gas filter in the tank is not free to shift to the lowest part of the tank when you turn the trimmer at an angle(this might be correctable by adjusting how much line is in the tank as it passes through the grommet.

            [sorry for the repeat on the venting, didn't see your post yet]

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            • #7
              Thanks guys!!!!!!!! That's a big help. I'll try it and let you know what happens. But the weather here is changing and not sure when I'll be able to work again. It was 80 degrees last weekend. Calling for snow tomarrow. Great mid west weather.

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              • #8
                I've decided it was due to the line that came on it. There was very little kinking to the line I switched to, and less vibration as a result.

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                • #9
                  RedMax 's don't much care for low Rpm usage. Also if you over prim it at start up it will soak the air filter on the bottom. Strato Charged, easy start but crave premium 2 cycle oil. Let it warm up, put it on cruse and Slice-n-Dice. PS you may want to clean the fuel filter with a High Flash Point Solvent as water in the high priced cheap fuel we get can cause vibrating from gumming. Most small engine fouling is fuel related.
                  Clim T. Cadidlehopper
                  Clown about Town
                  (If it's not gona make them smile it's not worth doing!)

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the input Clim. I use a top notch oil at 80:1 till they're run in a while, then I'll switch to 100:1. The oil itself, and it's additive package, helps with any water problems or gumming. I'll watch the r's and the priming.

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                    • #11
                      100:1 oil to gas????? That's pretty high manufacturers only recommend 50:1

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                      • #12
                        AMSOIL is designed to provide superior lubrication at 100:1 and it does it with less odor, smoke, fouling. If I were to use Amsoil at 50:1 it would be kind of like using a 50:1 oil at 25:1; richer than needed, however Amsoil would be able to do it without the negative effects of running too rich (fouling, smoke).

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