Kawasaki FJ180V on commercial 21" WB, it is good?

[yungman]

I am starting to do some research into a commercial 21" mower. The few main engines are
1) kawasaki FJ180V that used by Toro, Snapper, Ariens.
2) Honda GSV160, GSV190 the cheaper version of Honda commercial with one main bearing.
3) The Honda GXV160 top commercial engine.
4) Kolher XT-7

I am reluctant to get Honda stuff because of experience of Honda deny warrantee and so were a few other people's experience. So I want to find out what people think about the Kawasaki FJ180V that is on almost all the commercial 21" wb that use Kawasaki engine. I think that is the only Kawasaki engine being used on commercial 21" that I know of. Kolhler XT-7 seems to be used in the lower end commercials.

Please tell me your opinion.
Thanks
Alan

[jrservices]

I am starting to do some research into a commercial 21" mower. The few main engines are
1) kawasaki FJ180V that used by Toro, Snapper, Ariens.
2) Honda GSV160, GSV190 the cheaper version of Honda commercial with one main bearing.
3) The Honda GXV160 top commercial engine.
4) Kolher XT-7

I am reluctant to get Honda stuff because of experience of Honda deny warrantee and so were a few other people's experience. So I want to find out what people think about the Kawasaki FJ180V that is on almost all the commercial 21" wb that use Kawasaki engine. I think that is the only Kawasaki engine being used on commercial 21" that I know of. Kolhler XT-7 seems to be used in the lower end commercials.

Please tell me your opinion.
Thanks
Alan

Got one on my exmark 21''. Three years, so far, so good. No complaints.

[yungman]

Got one on my exmark 21''. Three years, so far, so good. No complaints.

Want to confirm you mean the Kawi FJ180V.

[jrservices]

Want to confirm you mean the Kawi FJ180V.

Yup.............

[steve-o]

What Jr Said..................

Got one on my exmark 21''. Three years, so far, so good. No complaints.

6 years on mine..................***********

steve

[MASTERMOWER]

The other two ain't know their sheot....so listen....

Honda....
GV160/190 engines are garbage. Honda made a mistake and kept their name on them. These GV series engines are not commercial by any means. They are not any better than a residential briggs or tecumseh, people just think it's good because they bought the unit for the Honda name. Honda just wants their share of the low-end engine market.

The GX series engines are excellent however, and have been for a long time.

Kawasaki.....
Stick with the engines with oil filters. There are cheaper "commercial" units with Kawasaki engines but they do not have the filter option. This is silly, you want the filter otherwise you will be changing the oil more frequently. I have heard some bad stuff about the John Deere 21" mowers with Kawasaki engines (badged as John Deere) however.

Kohler......
They try.....that's about all I can say. :alien:

Bottom line if it were I: Honda GX or Kawasaki with filter. I'd feel comfortable with either.

[yungman]

The other two ain't know their sheot....so listen....

Honda....
GV160/190 engines are garbage. Honda made a mistake and kept their name on them. These GV series engines are not commercial by any means. They are not any better than a residential briggs or tecumseh, people just think it's good because they bought the unit for the Honda name. Honda just wants their share of the low-end engine market.

The GX series engines are excellent however, and have been for a long time.

Kawasaki.....
Stick with the engines with oil filters. There are cheaper "commercial" units with Kawasaki engines but they do not have the filter option. This is silly, you want the filter otherwise you will be changing the oil more frequently. I have heard some bad stuff about the John Deere 21" mowers with Kawasaki engines (badged as John Deere) however.

Kohler......
They try.....that's about all I can say. :alien:

Bottom line if it were I: Honda GX or Kawasaki with filter. I'd feel comfortable with either.

THanks for the reply. You mean the oil filter is not on the engine, that they put in the oil filter after market as optional in different brands?

[jrservices]

The other two ain't know their sheot....so listen....

Honda....
GV160/190 engines are garbage. Honda made a mistake and kept their name on them. These GV series engines are not commercial by any means. They are not any better than a residential briggs or tecumseh, people just think it's good because they bought the unit for the Honda name. Honda just wants their share of the low-end engine market.

The GX series engines are excellent however, and have been for a long time.

Kawasaki.....
Stick with the engines with oil filters. There are cheaper "commercial" units with Kawasaki engines but they do not have the filter option. This is silly, you want the filter otherwise you will be changing the oil more frequently. I have heard some bad stuff about the John Deere 21" mowers with Kawasaki engines (badged as John Deere) however.

Kohler......
They try.....that's about all I can say. :alien:

Bottom line if it were I: Honda GX or Kawasaki with filter. I'd feel comfortable with either.

Immature. That's what you are. The fj180v is on the exmark 21'', that's what we use. Engage your brain once in a while.

[steve-o]

The Beotch Ain't Got No Brain................

Immature. That's what you are. The fj180v is on the exmark 21'', that's what we use. Engage your brain once in a while.

that last tornado took what was left and dumped it at Neverland with MJ.

steve-o

[Scaper-S2k]

Don't worry about the darn oil filters on these push mowers. It's a scam. Seriously, it's just crazy. I hope you guys don't change them at all. And if you do, I sure hope it's not more than once every couple years.

Let's see, I have a 5hp engine with a filter that's half the size of my 300hp truck.


I wish one day someone will show me their mower that broke down because it didn't have an oil filter.

Amazing, my 16 and 19 year old Toro 12.5 Kawasakis don't have filters. No issues. The 16 yr old unit still gets used on an almost daily basis. And oddly enough it's the one the guys want to use when we need to cut the occasional waist high fields.

Oil filters on push mowers, or even walk behinds are worthless. Some day I hope to be proved wrong.

[TRANSMAN]

Good one

Don't worry about the darn oil filters on these push mowers. It's a scam. Seriously, it's just crazy. I hope you guys don't change them at all. And if you do, I sure hope it's not more than once every couple years.

Let's see, I have a 5hp engine with a filter that's half the size of my 300hp truck.


I wish one day someone will show me their mower that broke down because it didn't have an oil filter.

Amazing, my 16 and 19 year old Toro 12.5 Kawasakis don't have filters. No issues. The 16 yr old unit still gets used on an almost daily basis. And oddly enough it's the one the guys want to use when we need to cut the occasional waist high fields.

Oil filters on push mowers, or even walk behinds are worthless. Some day I hope to be proved wrong.

I have to agree...

Years ago a very old person i knew who worked for GM`s engineering dept told me oil filters were the biggest farce the American public was ever exposed to...

Has anyone ever tried pouring oil threw a one pleat of paper filtering media, (never-mind the multiple pleats filters use) and see that oil can barely pass threw any type of media???

Even under pressure 99.9 percent of the oil goes around the bypass so basically that's why every engine has a bypass...

If filters worked you would be able to put a teaspoon of sand in your oil and it would immediately be filtered out...

Try this ( adding sand) and the engine will knock and be destroyed pretty quick meaning the filter just adds cost , is a waste , and is a romance item that designers add to improve sales to the gullible public...

If i have a choice between two identical engines that have oil filtering options i`ll save the initial cost on the useless filter plus the ridicules need of having to change and pay for a oil filter that does squat and take the filter-less unit....

Plus anyone who would think its logical to change any filter (every other oil change) leaving dirty oil in the filter to be mixed with the new oil change just isnt useing common sence....:laughing:

Correct me if im wrong :

If you leave a filter filled with dirty oil on a engine ( as most manuals state), and add new oil to the sump ,when the engine starts and it / the oil mixes, dont you end up with all dirty oil again ???????:laughing::laughing:

Ahhh ,,,, That's all i`ll say for now!!!!!

T-magic

[steve-o]

The Tweetyman Has Schooled Me.....................

I have to agree...

Years ago a very old person i knew who worked for GM`s engineering dept told me oil filters were the biggest farce the American public was ever exposed to...

Has anyone ever tried pouring oil threw a one pleat of paper filtering media, (never-mind the multiple pleats filters use) and see that oil can barely pass threw any type of media???

Even under pressure 99.9 percent of the oil goes around the bypass so basically that's why every engine has a bypass...

If filters worked you would be able to put a teaspoon of sand in your oil and it would immediately be filtered out...

Try this ( adding sand) and the engine will knock and be destroyed pretty quick meaning the filter just adds cost , is a waste , and is a romance item that designers add to improve sales to the gullible public...

If i have a choice between two identical engines that have oil filtering options i`ll save the initial cost on the useless filter plus the ridicules need of having to change and pay for a oil filter that does squat and take the filter-less unit....

Plus anyone who would think its logical to change any filter (every other oil change) leaving dirty oil in the filter to be mixed with the new oil change just isnt useing common sence....:laughing:

Correct me if im wrong :

If you leave a filter filled with dirty oil on a engine ( as most manuals state), and add new oil to the sump ,when the engine starts and it / the oil mixes, dont you end up with all dirty oil again ???????:laughing::laughing:

Ahhh ,,,, That's all i`ll say for now!!!!!

T-magic

now i know it's OK to get one of them KIRBY machines and suck the oil out of the engine and filter and leave that ole filter since it don't do nothing. if it don't do nothing then it can't be dirty if my KIRBY sucks all the oil out, therefore, NO dirty oil. now i can save $$$ on the filters plus not have that big mess to clean up. thanks tweetyman.......opps... i meant TRANNYQUAKE.....


steve-o

[MASTERMOWER]

"it's on my mower, so I maintain authority here." You're the idiot here............

Immature. That's what you are. The fj180v is on the exmark 21'', that's what we use. Engage your brain once in a while.

Quit spewing nonsense. Perhaps you ought to engage your brain? If you did you'd come to learn the fj180v is offered with a filter and without. The dude was asking about ENGINES, not specific questions regarding the Kawasaki engine on the 21" Exmarks. Derrrrrr, you a reeeeeeeeeeeeeetard. :alien::alien:

[TRANSMAN]

What are you saying steeve ???

now i know it's OK to get one of them KIRBY machines and suck the oil out of the engine and filter and leave that ole filter since it don't do nothing. if it don't do nothing then it can't be dirty if my KIRBY sucks all the oil out, therefore, NO dirty oil. now i can save $$$ on the filters plus not have that big mess to clean up. thanks tweetyman.......opps... i meant TRANNYQUAKE.....


steve-o

You know your really pissing me off at this point because your a moron !!!!

As scaper said why do engines without bogus filters last thousands of hours while others on here complain that their wizbang 3 grand engines throw a rod before they get to the 1000 hour mark ????

Do you really want me to point and add links to threads where people complained that their filtered top of the line engines blew apart before they had 600 hrs on them?????

And if you think im a tweetyman being an azzhole i`ll gladly meet your old fart azz anywhere of your choosing and SEE WHO THE TWEETYMAN IS !!!!!

I'm not looking to make trouble but if you want to insult me then you might have to pay the price!!!!!

And yes im no computer dummy as you left so many digital footprints while kissing my azz last year trying to get on my good side that i know everything about you like those pictures of your wife , children and everything else that you should be ashamed of even posting on the Internet for people to see....

You wanna play insulting hard ball ????

Actually i live for azz holes to take me on be it physically or verbally!!!!!

Do you want all of your pictures plastered all over the forum just to start off with including your old wrinkled face with your wife Della who id rather not bring into this????

Show some respect before i let loose and SQUASH YOU LIKLE THE BUG YOU ARE !!!!!!

Do you HERE me " STEEVE-E-FAGGOT" , steeve, or however you want to be addressed....

You may think im the fag but you will be very surprised when i pop up at your house and knock the shiet out of you in front of your whole family because you treat everyone like their idiots.....

PUSH ANOTHER BUTTON FAGGOT !!!!!!!!!!

TWEETYMAN

I could be your worst nightmare real quick ,or you could just be polite and a good friend as at this point i dont give a flying shiet

SO SAY SOMTHING STUPID AS YOU NORMALLY DO and find out what happens, FERTALIZER / shiet man!!!!!!!

Lets here some more silly stories about how you fired customers who actually employ and pay you !!!!!

THAT ALONE makes you a retard in my book, because the employer who hires and pays you fires people , not the pee-on mower idiot that is doing work for the employer ,but your to stupid to figure that out!!!!!!

ANY 8 year old can do your job , so dont act like you graduated MIT/" Mass institute of technology" like i did you stupid azz !!!!!!!

Your always bragging about some fictitious corn liquor you claim to have brewed threw some toxic pipe, but why not admit you know nothing about stills, or converting anything to drinkable alcohol ,and if you read a book on how to do it your so dumb it would blow apart in your ugly mug before you added the needed ingredients to the cooker YOU DUMB -AZZ!!!!!!

What are you drinking other then wood alcohal cooked up in some lead and mercury pipeing as its obviouse you have brain damage??????

[jrservices]

All this over a engine? Wow........