Hows Honda?

[Phillip Baker]

How are the Honda push mowers? I have the TORO 2 cycle now which they have quit making, and the new 4 cycle are a couple hundred more now, I was buying at $940.00 for the 2 cycle and they want $1112.00 for the 4 cycle. The honda 4 cycle I looked at was $600.00 is that a good mower?

[P&C Lawn Care]

Which Honda is this? Two speed, three speed, Hydrostat (doubt it for that price). I use Honda's (21") and they are very durable and start on the first pull and make an excellant cut. For close to $940 you can get a hydrostat Commercial HRC216, which is one of the best mowers around, IMO. To save some money they have a two speed version.

[tulsa lawn guy]

[QUOTE=Phillip Baker]]I have the TORO 2 cycle now which they have quit making.QUOTE]

You've got to be kidding!!

Why in the world would they stop making the 2 cycle mowers? Those things are built like tanks! In fact, I was just getting ready to go out and buy another one...

[Phillip Baker]

Ya they have stopped production due to EPA regulations on emmisions and are only producing the 4 cycle now with a Kawasaki engine. My dealer still has a couple of the 2 cycles on hand, I was just wondering how they compared to Honda, the Toro's are tanks!!!!!

[tulsa lawn guy]

Phillip,

I just got off the phone with the Toro dealer that I use here in Tulsa. She said the 2 cycle engine on the Toro 21" Prolines will be replaced by either a four cycle kawasaki or a four cycle honda. (That's right... a honda engine on a Toro frame!) As far as pricing, the Toro with the Honda is $999 and the one with the kawasaki (4 cycle) is $959.

So who makes the better four cycle engine? Kawasaki or Honda?

[PTLlandscapingIL]

thtas hard to say they both are the BEST OF THE BEST,its just what ur dealer perffers so work on.i have a honda on my bobcay and its only a 13.5 and it kicks a$$ seriously i had gotton an account last year that haddent been doen ina while and it was over a foot high and it cut right through it

[Phillip Baker]

Cool are those Hondas you guys mentioned Composite bodies or Aluminum? And are the helper proof? Some times my guys could tear up an anvil!!!!

[Jack D.]

Jack D.would suggest purchasing as many 2-stroke Suzuki's as you can affford. Neither the Honda, nor the Kaw. come close to the Suzuki for comfort (lighter), ease of maint., & durability.

Jack D. has on order all the remaining stock of 5.5 Suzuki Proline's in the South of NA region.

If one had to chose between the Honda & Kaw., one should go w/the Kaw:More Guts.

[Phillip Baker]

Jack what about next Year they wont be around, I want something I can count on getting parts for down the road. Also what about the EPA? One of the big cities I do work in is considering banning 2 cycle weedeaters and blowers, because i hear they will get more federal aid if they are more enviroment friendly. This is a big push right now from some tree huggers in this area that serve on some concils now.

[Jack D.]

Proline 21" mower parts are the same as Proline's equipped w/Honda or Kaw's. Suzuki engine parts, in the unlikely event you ever need them, will be avail. for many years.

[tulsa lawn guy]

Truthfully, I'm not too upset about the engine change... Honda and Kawasaki both make good engines.

I'm just happy that the deck and other components of the mower will remain the same. I accidentally ran over all kinds of stuff this past year and the Toro just keeps on keepin' on... Great mower!

[Phillip Baker]

Ya I love my toro's, Just cant believe the new yr pricing, say Jack why dont you let some of those go say for like $500.00 I'll take 2!!!!