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  • #16
    Jack D, you have NEVER plowed with a 13,000 pound truck before. Sorry, you have no input on them at all. I've plowed up hills, down hills, icy conditions, whatever. The difference between a 13k pound truck and a 5k pound truck is quite a difference.

    You always say that I show fairly flat lots with medium snow. No ****? That's what most parking lots are! You won't find too many parking lots sloped at a 30 degree angle dude.

    As for manuverability? The turning radius is tighter than any pickup truck. That's one reason I get done faster (and better) than the guy plowing next door....well that and I have a 9' plow, not a 7.5' plow.

    Better? Yeh, look how you can see the sides of the plow in this picture......

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    • #17
      I'm allways left out...

      I've tried & tried to get Snowplowing accounts.

      I think I'm either too high on my bids or nobody's interested?
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      • #18
        GrassMaster, you need to do a 'Property Audit'!!!!

        j/k


        P.S. I am still not getting e-mail notifications from this site. Any ideas what I can do? They just stopped one day, I didn't change anything.
        a.k.a.---> Erich

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        • #19
          Okay GrassMaster, now that is odd. I posted that last message about no e-mails, and then checked my e-mail and got the notification you posted to this thread!!! Is that a coincidence or are messin' with my head??? Knock it off, I can't take much more mental anquish!

          Either way, I will rack it up as you being on the ball and fixing it somehow. Your new nick name? Mr. Mental Giant.
          a.k.a.---> Erich

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          • #20
            I dunno about anything.

            I haven't had anybody else complain about e-mails...

            I have been working on the e-mail, but my main problem was I wasn't getting any bounced back to me that went to invalid e-mail addresses & I really need that to help me herd the masses that cut grasses for the asses! :")

            LOL, I just changed a -f parameter in my PHP send mail functions & I'm getting bounced e-mails & it's possible that it fixed your problem...

            But hellifiknow much about anything, butt I'm glad it's working 4 ya!

            Hopefully the -f parameter thing fixed both our problems with our e-mails!
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            • #21
              Originally posted by GrassMaster
              I haven't had anybody else complain about e-mails...

              I have been working on the e-mail, but my main problem was I wasn't getting any bounced back to me that went to invalid e-mail addresses & I really need that to help me herd the masses that cut grasses for the asses! :")

              LOL, I just changed a -f parameter in my PHP send mail functions & I'm getting bounced e-mails & it's possible that it fixed your problem...

              But hellifiknow much about anything, butt I'm glad it's working 4 ya!

              Hopefully the -f parameter thing fixed both our problems with our e-mails!
              Erich,

              Is it working for you now?

              Oh and Jack D youre a MORON!!!

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              • #22
                Yes Chuck, it seems to be. GrassMasters post sent an e-mail within about 1 minute or so. But your post didn't send the e-mail notification for about 1 hour or so. But I still got it.


                Seems odd why I would be the only one not getting those e-mails. There has to be others too? Of course it IS the -fn parameter thing, so who knows!
                a.k.a.---> Erich

                www.avalawnlandscaping.com


                Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
                Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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                • #23
                  I must have had my options setup to recieve emails. I just got the first message since I became a member in 12-03. You guys fixed something.

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                  • #24
                    Mr. Skaper, had you been paying attention to your lessons you would have realized that Jack D. agreed that backloading a 2WD would be fine for the mamby pampy type of plowing shown.

                    However, as you also have agreed, a 4WD would perform better not only in those situations but in various, more challenging push and storm scenarios.

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                    • #25
                      Hey scaper, I have heard it sayed that the 113'' wheelbase Isuzu can push a lot more than 130''.
                      Is this only because they don't have enough weight over the rear wheels????

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                      • #26
                        Jack D. I have pushed snow in most all situations that any other trucks encounter on parking lots. I've yet to see a parking lot that is not fairly flat and fairly open. But hey, if you spot one, snap the picture. Yeh, there are smaller parking lots, but they are still fairly flat and open.....they have to be, they are for parking cars! And the Isuzu has a better turning radius allowing smaller lots to be done better than with a full size pickup. I also didn't say any 4x4 would do better. Comparing the same exact vehicle, the 4x4 will be better. But a 4x4 1/2 ton isn't going to out do the Isuzu 4x2. And when is enough enough? City vehicles plow nonstop but are 4x2 Kodiaks. Will a 4x4 Kodiak do better? Sure, but will there ever be enough snow to actually see the 4x2 get bogged down and need the 4x4? Doubtful.

                        Thank you for your concern, and your usual confusion. For someone that pretends to be so smart, you sure lack in comprehension.


                        Chathamcorn, I doubt that small of an extra length would change things too much. I suppose even if it did, I would be putting a skid of salt directly over the rear axle anyway. Most people I know around your state plow with the storm and don't go out just when the storm ends to plow 12" off the lot. So as long as you have good tires, you should do just fine.
                        a.k.a.---> Erich

                        www.avalawnlandscaping.com


                        Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
                        Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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                        • #27
                          Mr. Skaper has become more and more isolated from real world maint. where the typical contractor must service a variety of accounts including but not inclusive of the open lot push.

                          Fortunately we have have recently seen Avalawn's move towards more pick-ups to compliment & sustain the shortcomings of cabovers which are best suited to laundry service & large scale pizza deliveries.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Scaper-S2k
                            Yes Chuck, it seems to be. GrassMasters post sent an e-mail within about 1 minute or so. But your post didn't send the e-mail notification for about 1 hour or so. But I still got it.


                            Seems odd why I would be the only one not getting those e-mails. There has to be others too? Of course it IS the -fn parameter thing, so who knows!
                            ... No, you are not the only one. I don't get the e-mail notifications either. Also, seems like I cannot access this site at times either, won't bring up the page at all, period. This is the only site that does this, comes up, server not found. GRASSMASTER, any input??

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                            • #29
                              E-mails, Errors & Search Engine Optimization.

                              Originally posted by jrservices
                              ... No, you are not the only one. I don't get the e-mail notifications either. Also, seems like I cannot access this site at times either, won't bring up the page at all, period. This is the only site that does this, comes up, server not found. GRASSMASTER, any input??
                              A while back Mr. Scaper-S2K mentioned he was not getting e-mail notifications I couldn't find any problems at that time, but I did find a problem yesterday it was a -f parameter setting & it should be working OK now!

                              NOW Last Sunday we moved to another server, between Sunday & Tuesday of last week we were in process of moving to new server... As far as I could tell nobody was having problems due to the way it was done, you either went to old server or new server. Maybe I'm wrong?

                              Nobody else has mentioned any e-mail or accessing the server issues except for Scaper & Now you (jrservices).

                              Evidently I took care of the e-mail problem & as far as I know there shouldn't be any access problems except possibly Sunday through Tuesday of last week.

                              Now I have been playing with the page code due for Search Engine Optimization. If you clicked a link that was on Google or some of the other search engines you could possibly get an error, but if you click on a bad link like this one http://www.lawnserviceforum.com/iex.php you should get a custom 404 error page which I coded just for those errors that would redirect you back to forum home page. Our forum is only one that has a custom 404 error page at this time.

                              A week or so ago I had about 15,780 links on Google & I was unhappy with it so I've been working on that, LOL I want over 70,000 links to the forum & I'm working on it daily... Check it out... Click here...



                              If you notice at the top right of the page it says...

                              Results 1 - 100 of about 15,900 from lawnserviceforum.com for Lawn Service. (0.44 seconds)

                              Every one of those links is to a different page, but my page description is the same & I'm having a hard time changing the code so it will input different descriptions per link.

                              I don't pay for any search engine advertising due to the links above & my knowledge of Web Page Search Engine Optimization, because as you can tell I don't need too...

                              It's something that I'm very good at, I do this for a very few others every once in a while & they pay dearly for it.

                              If any of you come up with a killer product or service to sell & want to get seen by many visitors & possibly a lot of traffic you can read more about my services here... http://www.123-submit-url.com/Default1.htm

                              That site is not open to the public, I have it hard coded where it shouldn't show up by search engines & I have the Shopping Cart disabled. I did this due to not having time to do it for the public...

                              But if you get off the money, I will be more than glad to do some work for you. If you ever used one of those Cheap ass Submitter Sites or really screw up & use one of those FFA links pages my labor is around $200 an hour!

                              My search engine ranking for Lawnservicing & Lawnserviceforum is my proof that I know what I'm doing but please remember as always I chose who I work for, they don't chose me. If they want more traffic, Possibly make more money & want to pay me dearly for it, do not contact me, because I'm very busy, I also do freebies every once in a while T00!

                              I think I've done enough advertising & spamming for my Search Engine Optimization web site located at http://www.123-submit-url.com/Default1.htm

                              Have a Nice Sunday Everybody, My Family & Friends will be here after lunch to pay homage & celebrate my Over the Hill RedNeck Lifestyle! YEEEEHA!

                              PS: Did I mention that I'm Damn good at Search Engine Optimization? You bet I did, the proof is in the pudding!
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                              • #30
                                It's all working good for me now. Jrservices, I have had sites sit like that for a while not doing anything and then push the stop button only to have them quickly appear. It has happened on this site a couple times over 3 years, but I have had it happen on many other sites as well. I rack it up as being on dial up. That was quite some time ago though. It has been running smooth since, especially now that the e-mail is fixed.
                                a.k.a.---> Erich

                                www.avalawnlandscaping.com


                                Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
                                Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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