Wow, Nice New Engine on the Quick 36

[Scaper-S2k]

Better Outdoor is proud to introduce the Quick 36™ Samurai™ powered by the electric start 16HP Kawasaki KAI V-Twin. Besides being incredibly powerful, smooth and super-quiet, Samurai™ has all the cool features of our Super-Duty™ mowers. Hydrostatic drive, heavy–duty greaseable spindles, great cutting 3-blade deck, deck doubler plate, hourmeter, oversized tires, etc. $2595.

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Sounds great. I do believe I will try a Quick 36 when I am in the market for another 36" mower.

I also wonder if they have any plans on adding an extra blade to make a 48" unit as well.

[Jack D.]

You Can Buy 3 Quick 36's for the Price of a Jack D. Special Edition Tracer HP

Jack D. eagerly awaits the second pump and wheel motor on a Special Edition Quick 36.

Jack D. will be putting a 19hp Kaw.electric start w/Donaldson canister filter on a 36" Tracer HP this spring for the Ultimate Residential Mower Competition®.

Last season the stock 15hp Kaw. on a 36" Tracer HP was swapped w/a 17hp Kaw. to maintain tip speed when mulching thick turf w/double blades.

[jrservices]

Jack D. eagerly awaits the second pump and wheel motor on a Special Edition Quick 36.

Jack D. will be putting a 19hp Kaw.electric start w/Donaldson canister filter on a 36" Tracer HP this spring for the Ultimate Residential Mower Competition®.

Last season the stock 15hp Kaw. on a 36" Tracer HP was swapped w/a 17hp Kaw. to maintain tip speed when mulching thick turf w/double blades.

How well did the swap-out go? Did everything line up & bolt in okay?

[TRANSMAN]

Was their a mass failure of the original Briggs????

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Sounds great. I do believe I will try a Quick 36 when I am in the market for another 36" mower.

I also wonder if they have any plans on adding an extra blade to make a 48" unit as well.

In my opinion all that's happening now is paying a premium price for a name people have been brainwashed into thinking is some sort of superior product...

I guess Gary fell to consumer pressure or possibly slower sales because someone thought the Briggs couldn't make the cut...

Were the early model Quicks not holding up in the engine department????

Curious TRANNY..

[LLee]

Im trying to decide which mower to get now that they have made these changes. I use a 36 about 1 hour a week, but want a new 36 that will serve as my "back up" to my 52 when needed. I was thinking of the superduty and now this Kawasaki has gotten my interests. But is the Kaw worth the extra $500 over the superfox since I'm only going about an hour a week and the rare times I need it full time? I was also looking at a 36" stander which is about $4000, but would be much faster when needed on a fulltime basis. What do you guys think? I'm leaning towards the stander for the extra money thinking with its limited use I'll be able to keep it like 10 years or more, but then I keep saying for almost half price I could get the quick 36 and just suck it up if I have to use it full time for a week or two should my 52 go in the shop.

[Quick36]

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It's like I said in the annoucement... Briggs has done a great job for us. The 13 Inteks and especially the 16 ELS's on our Super Dutys have been solid and reliable performers. We've had very few problems in the field with Briggs (or the Quick 36 in general).

Hasn't really been an issue of sales either. Last year, the introduction of the Super Duty had us steppin' and fetchin' all season trying to keep up with demand. We were still running a backorder in early September...

Kawasaki undeniably builds a great engine and we're just giving folks that option. Choice is a beautiful thing...

As a side note: The Kawasaki is built with American parts using American labor in Marysville, Missouri. Briggs' Vanguard twins are built by Daihatsu in Japan.

Scaper & JackD: Keep an eye on the site, please.

Gary
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quick36.com

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Good to hear ... I like Briggs , and the Kawi page is confusing

Trans:

It's like I said in the annoucement... Briggs has done a great job for us. The 13 Inteks and especially the 16 ELS's on our Super Dutys have been solid and reliable performers. We've had very few problems in the field with Briggs (or the Quick 36 in general).

Hasn't really been an issue of sales either. Last year, the introduction of the Super Duty had us steppin' and fetchin' all season trying to keep up with demand. We were still running a backorder in early September...

Kawasaki undeniably builds a great engine and we're just giving folks that option. Choice is a beautiful thing...

As a side note: The Kawasaki is built with American parts using American labor in Marysville, Missouri. Briggs' Vanguard twins are built by Daihatsu in Japan.

Scaper & JackD: Keep an eye on the site, please.

Gary
Better/
quick36.com

Are you sure Kawasaki is selling you an engine that actually exists Gary????

Their home site is so bungled they have the their 13 hp engine advertised as a 23 hp engine ...

https://www.Kawpowr.com/4cycle/vert_FH381Vkai.asp

Check the specs under the picture of the engine and you can see this engine puts out a max of 13 HP...

That's a blunder someone at kawi should have caught IMO , especially if they want to claim to be the best....

I did a quick look and i may have misread but they don't even seem to list a 16 hp vertical shaft but have engines of exact displacement putting out differences of 2 hp and that just doesn't make much sense...

Both the 17 hp and 19 hp are identical in every way i can see and even have the same bore and stroke / displacement...

Like the old small block Chevy all the KAI engines , weigh the same and appear the same from the outside so distinguishing the 13 from the 19 is probably visually impossible without measuring the cylinder bore and you could be sold anything if you just take their word...

The 13 through 19 HP KAI engines all have the same block size and they advertise them as weighing exactly the same so i wonder how you know for sure exactly what engine Kawi is sending you when they cant even get their specks correct on their home page advertising a 13 HP as a 23 HP...

Actually i did a quick look but i don't think the KAI series even is available in a 23 HP engine but i`ll go back and check...

Just mentioning this because i wouldn't want to see you get ripped off by paying for a 16 HP which i cant find in the KAI line and them shipping you a 13 HP Kai because they are somehow confused...

Its possible the page may be outdated but from my experience with Kawasaki i would double check and make sure they just don't slap a higher rated HP sticker on a lower Hp engine and try to slip this by....

They did do this a few years back with Sears and it made getting things like pistons and head gaskets a pain because many engines were mismatched and much mass confusion followed ......

My guess is that their selling you a KAI that's actually 15 HP, or possibly the 17 HP / 19 HP which would be nice and telling you its a 16 HP unless the 16 just came out this month and the page is not updated yet...

Just thought you should be aware and make sure your getting what your paying for "with the proper sticker on it" because you wouldn't want anyone suing you down the line if kawi slipped you some engine that wasn't what they told you and during a repair like a blown head gasket the customer finds out his 16 HP actually has the bore of the 15 HP or worse yet 13 HP and blames you for misrepresentation which would have been Kawis fault ....

Good luck , and i hope i just read things wrong , but please be sure you get what your supposed to considering these engines all look identical from the outside and your depending on them not making mistakes which it appears they have but havent caught as of yet...

Sincerely, TRANS..........

[Quick36]

rest easy... it's definately a 16 HP KAI.

I do agree that Kawasaki needs to update their site (along with us and a lot of other people!).

Have a good weekend,

Gary
Better/

[jgc8fan]

Scaper & JackD: Keep an eye on the site, please.

Gary
Better/
quick36.com

Ooh... Now my interest is peaked... And I thought the Kaw was enough of a surprise... If you pull out a Q36 dual hydro with Kaw for considerably less than Exmark then I'll definitely have to consider it (I've already been considering a Q36 SD for several months already). If I seriously decide I need a 36" in the future that is. Right now I'm okay with my current gear.

Now I feel like kid on Xmas Eve. ROFL I suspect you will see a massive amount of hits on your site for sometime now due to just that remark. LOL

[LLee]

I too am curious as to what exactly this comment means as I am looking to add a new 36 to replace my old belt drive. If a dual hydro is in the works perhaps knowing so would help me plan accordingly. I'd hate to buy another brand only to find out that 3 months from now Quick 36 went dual hydro, or worst yet I'd hate to buy the single hydro only to find out better outdoor will be offering a dual hydro soon.

[Jack D.]

Q36"'s Claim to Fame is Trumping Belt Drives at Competitive Pricing.

Please note that if a dual hydro is offered on a Q36" the price will be adjusted accordingly.

The current single hydro Quick 36" is a superior, cost effective alternative to the traditional belt drive. The possible dual hydro should be a cost effective alternative to traditional dual hydros. Two distinctive classes of mowers that will appeal to different markets.

Please do not hesitate purchasing a Q36" now if you are currently considering the unit because of competitive pricing.