Need everyone's opinion...

[yardboy]

Why did I go to school with fellow students whom where only in school so upon graduation they could go back to their employer and work there way back up the ranks? Prior to enrolling they hit a ceiling in the ranks.....just couldn't advance without a degree.

Most of you common folk lawn jockeys just wouldn't understand....esp if you've worked for mom and pop operations.

Yardboy says sarcastically and grinning-WOW!:laughing:

[clclawn]

Why did I go to school with fellow students whom where only in school so upon graduation they could go back to their employer and work there way back up the ranks? Prior to enrolling they hit a ceiling in the ranks.....just couldn't advance without a degree.

Most of you common folk lawn jockeys just wouldn't understand....esp if you've worked for mom and pop operations.

Once you get employees, you might understand.

A maintenance formans value is based on his ablity to bring in money.

His knowlage of plant material is needed, but a 2 year degree is overkill for a forman. If he was wanting to be in higher level of managment, then it would be helpful, but not nessisary. Because he stated he dose not want to handle the business crap, and just wants to work in the feild, i would assume thats as far as he wants to go in this industry.

The key to this discussion is maintenance forman. A 2 year degree would not get him a dollar more in that position.

[MASTERMOWER]

I musta read right over that crap.....like always. :alien:

[steve-o]

you could always be like me.........

just some dumb azz who decides to start a lawn care business and don't know squat and learns on his own, not needing no fancy education, but just a tiny bit of common sense and a good forum with a bunch of other dumb azzes. dave, you wanna make real $$$, either own the business or get another occupation. the $$$ you are saying you make or want won't even pay yardrat's drinking bill for a week.

steve

[spotremix]

Attend one of the local colleges and obtain at a minimum a two-year associates in horticulture/ landscape maintenance.....or whatever. You're only going to get so far with on job training.

Meander over to Oregon State University and ask to speak to an adviser. Can't be more than 15 minutes away from you? Great hort program. http://hort.oregonstate.edu/

Around the Portland metro area, there are a few community colleges that offer associates and certificate programs.

Seriously, why? Dude go get another degree to sit in the a/c somewhere.... Why waste 2 years of your life to just sweat your nuts off in the heat, and this may or may not get you a higher scale of pay..........If you want to learn the business side get a business degree or a landscape archetic degree or something, but really why get a horticulture/landscape maintenance degree, I tell you what, if you want to do that, pay me tution for 2 years and I will let you work under my wing, I will teach you just as much as you would learn with your associates and when you graduate I will put you on the payroll at 15.00 per hour to start......Twould be nice to have the free labor for two years...........
Seriously, get some certificates that would make you more valuable to the lawn turd.................Bring something to the table.........................
Example - One of my guys just got his commercial pesticide applicators license, guess what , he will make more money because for this I will give him a raise...............................

The rat is speaking the truth.

yes the rat makes sense. if i were to spend 2 years of my life in college (which i wouldn't in the first place) why not get a degree where you can sit in a/c all day and work mon-fri, 8-5???

i mean don't get me wrong i love my business but i can't imagine going to school for this shi+. i have this business because i don't want to go to school to get some degree and i this is something i can do and love doing without a degree.

[yardboy]

the $$$ you are saying you make or want won't even pay yardrat's drinking bill for a week.

Yeah, I would have to dry out on those figures, now I gotta go to the liqour store, be back later.:laughing: