"Generic" 2-4-D Ester

[GrassMaster]

Wiped Clean...

Try to stay on track, leaving out the Egos.

[lorenzo piedra]

In a total veg kill....how about bluegrass for starters!!!!!

Where and why is perennial bluegrass an undesirable or misplaced plant that needs eradication in your universe in late October in zone 5/6?

[Ric]

Actual cost comparison for woody plant control in non cropland areas.

LV-400 rate is 3 to 4 qts. per 100 gallons of solution so the high rate costs $0.16 per gallon of finished product.

41% round up rate for woody plant control is 7% (9.1 oz/gal) to 11% (14.3 oz/gal).

Therefore the cost to use round up (at $39.95 per gallon) for woody plant control at the high rate is $4.46 per gallon of finished product.

So then the cost for Ric to apply 20 gallons of finished product is $3.20.

And the cost for Mariner to apply 20 gallons of finished product is $89.20.

The only question now is what will Ric do with the $86.00 he saved by having the knowledge gained by doing his homework.

OK

To recap, We appear to have 5 members for adding 2-4-D to a lower rate of Roundup for total vegetation kill. And one who would rather make multiply appications of Roundup at a higher cost to not gain total control.

Professor Stone

Thank you, I will use the saved $ 86.00 to eat a well deserved Seafood Plater.

[mariner]

[QUOTE=Ric]OK

And one who would rather make multiply appications of Roundup at a higher cost to not gain total control. QUOTE]

I've never had to make a second app with glypho using a 5% mix. I would pay about $40 for 20 gallon mix at that rate. Ric said he made $500.00 for the job. At a profit of $460.00...I'd be happy!

I just don't understand why you would mix a selective and a non selective herbicide.

[lorenzo piedra]

I've never had to make a second app with glypho using a 5% mix. My cost is about 35 cents per gallon at that rate.

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Can you tell us where you are buying 41%AI at that price?

[mariner]

Can you tell us where you are buying 41%AI at that price?

Oops, I meant per ounce.

[Ric]

Can you tell us where you are buying 41%AI at that price?

Yep That what I like to know also.

Flounder

Oops at $ 0.35 per oz that is $ 44.80 per gallon or $ 112 per 2.5 gallon jug. I think you did to find a better supplier.

The Truth is Roundup is not a true non select. It was in fact developed as a Growth regular. It was later found to work as a great grass killer and half decent broad leaf killer. It then became the most financially successful Pesticide every made. It will stunt many other types of Plants will out killing them. At lower rate I use it as an over the top weed control on many plants. If you have Evergreen Giant Lirope with grassy weeds in it Try it as a select herbicide on the Lirope at Low rate. You will not kill the Lirope.

Mixing of chemical is the big advantage of spraying a tank mix. I am sorry if you lack of education in this field does not allow you to understand.

[mariner]

I do not lack the education. I would just not trust 2,4-d for brown outs. I'm not using "roundup" but the product I am using is 41% glyphosate and is very effective in knocking out anything I use it on. I mix various products all the time however I don't see the case where a selective and non selective would works together.


P.S. Ric and Stone,

You guys answer posts pretty fast. What is it that you do all day?

[Ric]

I do not lack the education. I would just not trust 2,4-d for brown outs. I'm not using "roundup" but the product I am using is 41% glyphosate and is very effective in knocking out anything I use it on. I mix various products all the time however I don't see the case where a selective and non selective would works together.


P.S. Ric and Stone,

You guys answer posts pretty fast. What is it that you do all day?

Flounder

Mr Ric is now old enough to qualify for Medicare and has elected to enjoy his retirement. Professor Stone does Athletic Fields and elects to work smart not hard. Therefore we have the time to answer your questions.

[mariner]

[QUOTE=Ric]Flounder

Mr Ric is now old enough to qualify for Medicare QUOTE]

That explains a lot!

[Alpine Naturescapes]

"Himalyian Blackberries which run rampant across the landscape. They produce excellent wild fruit, but they are comparable to Kudzu in the South for being unwanted in most landscapes."
I bet turflon ester would kick its butt - be careful of labelling though. There are one or two chems - one being Crossbow sf (totally different than Crossbow) which are straight Triclopyr salts labeled for brush and trees.

Mariner,
Give it a try, you will find that the 2-4-D added to the mix will do a great job on most all broadleaves - including trees - now if you're going with virtually total grass kill, use the glypho up the wazoo. We're not lying.

[mariner]

I believe you Alpine, but, whenever I do a total veg kill i'll use the glypho cuz there are going to be plants in the area that i'm spraying that won't be affected by the 2, 4-D and may not be affected by the lower rate of glypho. The glypho, in my experience, is a sure take down.....something I can offer as a guarantee to my customers and to myself that I won't have to go back.