let's see what you guys know. this is a test.

[steve-o]

the c.e.c is only slightly low (not a big deal)

Transman is correct. The cec is low, will hold fewer nutrients, and will leach nutrients. My guess is the soil in on the sandy side. Will need split applications of fertilizer.

the soil is not sandy and split apps of fert is not the answer. sorry, try again.

steve

[MASTERMOWER]

seriously............salt

Steve, did the test results have a reading for Sodium?

[steve-o]

yea, it did.

Steve, did the test results have a reading for Sodium?

for whatever reason it is left blank. it would have been tested in ppm. looking back, none of them have this. so, what would a normal reading be for NA?

steve

[TRANSMAN]

Bump ... Your thread died today like those weeds you mow

the soil is not sandy and split apps of fert is not the answer. sorry, try again.

steve

I thought to get things rolling again if its even possible i would rationalize trying to bring up the organic matter to something around 9 or 10 percent for max micro & macro-nutrient absorption....

Also i think your stated ph levels need a little help and would benefit from a reading around 6.6 or 6.7!!!!!

Add a little dolomitic limestone !!!!!

Also do so (adjustments) carefully because hypothetically speaking a ph reading of 5 i believe is 10 times as acid as 6 and 100 times as acid as 7....

Obviously this is mumbo jumbo but im trying to get your thread revived....:laughing:

Ooops sombody beat me to the bump, but i`ll leave it anyway ....

T-puppy-CAT

[TRANSMAN]

Hopefully it isnt there

Steve, did the test results have a reading for Sodium?

Excessive sodium from salt trucks or spilled shakers on barbecue is a no-no....

Sodium will be absorbed by the plant ,grass , whatever instead of the potassium leaving the item "potassium deficient" and dead!!!!!

If your lawn craves salt insist its taken out of its menu because of blood pressure issues and go with a low fiber, clear liquid diet for the lawn.......:laughing:

T-puppyCAT

[Scott]

I thought to get things rolling again if its even possible i would rationalize trying to bring up the organic matter to something around 9 or 10 percent for max micro & macro-nutrient absorption....

Also i think your stated ph levels need a little help and would benefit from a reading around 6.6 or 6.7!!!!!

Add a little dolomitic limestone !!!!!

Also do so (adjustments) carefully because hypothetically speaking a ph reading of 5 i believe is 10 times as acid as 6 and 100 times as acid as 7....

Obviously this is mumbo jumbo but im trying to get your thread revived....:laughing:

Ooops sombody beat me to the bump, but i`ll leave it anyway ....

T-puppy-CAT

depends on the type of grass

[steve-o]

so here we are..............

i ain't ready to give the correct answer and why. scott, nice try by the way. i thought we had some more guys that could give input.................do i need to call you boys out one by one?????????????? :laughing:

steve

[TRANSMAN]

Fix 1 without screwing the other

i ain't ready to give the correct answer and why. scott, nice try by the way. i thought we had some more guys that could give input.................do i need to call you boys out one by one?????????????? :laughing:

steve

According to your figures i think your MG / CA Ratio is running 1 : 5 instead of the preferred 1 : 7 ratio....

Getting that fixed would be the first solution i believe in achieving optimum c.e.c ....

You could probably try throwing in plain lime but then the ph would get wacked along with the MG so it has to be done carefully....

You could probably spread out a maintenance level of some lime calcium mixture and over time get the ratio "near correct " or as close as possible, "without screwing up the other soil numbers"...

You want the c.e.c up around 12 percent or so yes?????

So your main objective is probably to add a product that :

1..Wont adversely affect the pH balance...

2..Get the MG / CA ratio closer to 7 to 1...

3..Get the c.e.c up to 12 percent or so so starvation isnt an issue...

Am i even close to any answer your looking for because im no expert and may be missing the bigger picture?????

I mean :laughing::laughing: because im not a fertilizer expert just a guestamater.....

I know im probably missing something real big right???????

Send some shine so i can think better!!!!!!!:laughing:

How bout ya start a doggy kennel , raise chickens and cows letting them self fertilize the area naturally ?????

Will that get things right????:laughing:

Yep im winging it!!!!!

T-pooopyCAT

[Fvstringpicker]

One more time. The phosphorus level is too high and the potassium is a little low.

[steve-o]

at least you are trying.........

One more time. The phosphorus level is too high and the potassium is a little low.

yes, the phosphorus is very high, but the potassium level is high also. we still need to know what to do. ole tranny is almost there.

steve

[Fvstringpicker]

Raising the ph should improve the uptake of P. Obviously use fertilizer with no P until levels come down. I thought K levels were a little on the low side. The data I have is recommending 195 PPM.

[steve-o]

i guess it would depend on what source one uses.

Raising the ph should improve the uptake of P. Obviously use fertilizer with no P until levels come down. I thought K levels were a little on the low side. The data I have is recommending 195 PPM.

the 195 i would assume is the optimum #. there are still ranges involved as to what is low, medium or high. i'm not sure of the ranges on mine but i will find out tomorrow. i have some that are as low as 144 and still considered high.

steve

[Fvstringpicker]

This has been an interesting exercise. Thanks Steve

[steve-o]

that is why i put it up......

This has been an interesting exercise. Thanks Steve

thanks for your answers. i hope in the end someone can learn something from this. i'll give the answer soon depending on if someone else can chime in. we really don't need a grease monkey like transman going on the internet to find answers. we need people who do this for a living. get over it tranny. you are good though. :laughing:

steve

[TRANSMAN]

Who`s a grease monkey????

thanks for your answers. i hope in the end someone can learn something from this. i'll give the answer soon depending on if someone else can chime in. we really don't need a grease monkey like transman going on the internet to find answers. we need people who do this for a living. get over it tranny. you are good though. :laughing:

steve

There's nothing to get over because im not a Grease monkey.....

See the difference is my days of turning wrenches and crawling under cars getting grease on me is over....

I have people doing this greasy work for me while i get paid, so i have time to sit and play with "make believe numbers" with some "hypothetical perfect answer".... This was play time "nothing else"!!!!

I'm sure my hands have less grease on them or under there nails because assumption by calling me what im not is the root of all evil

The fact remains some experts here considered adding massive quantities of salt which would screw up potassium absorption leading to potassium deficient / dead plants as the answer...:laughing:

So at this point what was actually learned other then salt should not be poured into your dirt ,and my finger nails are cleaner then yours??????

1..3-4 members "possibly less" waisted time on a thread anyone would expect 50 people were involved in if this was really of any importance??

Maybe but considering i spent 5 minutes and already knew what was needed i would say:

*Nothing of any importance yet......

P.S ; all reference material gathered by me was already there from a book written by a gent named Phil entitled...

A Dead Twig was thought to be growing in Brooklyn but was merely a dead twig somebody shoved into the poisonous earth and thought to be growing in Brooklyn later found to have never grown because it was always dead because salt was poured on it when it was a sapling shutting down the potassium absorption!!!!:laughing:

T-puppyCAT