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    In 6 to 12 months I'm going to be up grading my truck. I would love to get a used cab over and build a landscape body for it. I'm just not sure a 2wd cabover will have the guts to push 200-300'' of snow a year. Has anyone ever run a cabover and a 1/2 or 3/4 ton p/u alongside a cabover?

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    So you think a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton consumer-grade truck will somehow hold up better than a 5 ton (or bigger) COMMERCIAL grade vehicle? Rethink that one.

    Woody
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    • #3
      Woody thats not what I mean!

      When I sayed guts I meant traction.

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      • #4
        Ok let me reword this a little bit.

        Will a Isusu NPR with lots of weight in the rear push as much snow as 3/4 ton 4wd pickup?

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        • #5
          Jack D. used to load down a Toyota Long Bed & it performed OK on a couple small lots. Backdragging, inclines & falling into deep snow or ditches is where you need 4WD. Please purchase either the 4WD Mits FG or a 4WD p/u if you plan on doing any serious plowing.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jack D.
            Jack D. used to load down a Toyota Long Bed & it performed OK on a couple small lots. Backdragging, inclines & falling into deep snow or ditches is where you need 4WD. Please purchase either the 4WD Mits FG or a 4WD p/u if you plan on doing any serious plowing.

            he's correct , always go for a 4wd for plowing for saftey reasons and also better traction.

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            • #7
              I plow with a cabover. I have yet to have snow I can't get through. We don't get as much as you do, BUT, I have many lots that sit across from flat areas and are low. It was not unusual to show up and see 70% of the lot covered in 12" of snow and deeper. The cabover NEVER had a problem.

              That was with a 9' blade also.

              The turning radius seems to get us in and out quicker than the guy plowing next door, and do a better job.

              The front doesn't sag much at all, maybe 1.5" at the most. I hammer down the snow covered highway with a plow faster than those 4x4's and the truck stays planted.


              I must admit, after 3 winters, it even suprises me. That's no joke.



              Two things to understand though. My Isuzu (I like my Mits better) has a 14'x8'x3' steel dumper bed. The truck weighs in at 9800 pounds empty. I put about 2000 pounds in the bed. It goes through anything. I may replace the back tires this year because they have quite a few miles on them now.



              KEEP IN MIND...... A 4x4 cabover will be better than a 4x2 cabover. No doubt.

              A 4x4 F-550 will do better I'm sure. But only in super deep snow because I have had no problems up to date, know what I mean? So where would the cabover stop and let the F550 win? Not sure how many inches that would take. Many times guys running F550's don't leave them in 4 wheel drive all the time either.

              Now I can gaurantee it will do better than a 4x4 1/2 ton any day, and I'd put it up against a 4x4 3/4 ton as well. And again, that's even pushing 9' wide, not 7.5' wide.

              Good tires are needed, not ones with 50k-60k miles on them.
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              • #8
                Here's a picture of it in action. I got out, took the picture, hopped back in and gave it gas....no spinning, just pushed it easily up a slight incline. The plow if fairly tall, but not sure how many inches that is. I have better pictures of deeper snow, I just need to find and upload them. Again, better than a 1/2 ton4x4 , possibly better than a 3/4 ton 4x4. I would say it competes with 1 ton 4x4's that can easily handle a 9' blade.




                a.k.a.---> Erich

                www.avalawnlandscaping.com


                Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
                Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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                • #9
                  I use a 3/4ton chev HD with 8ft plow, it works well and is short and easy to manauver. Yes I too would like a cabover however since the company also allows me to take the "company" truck home everday I like just a basic PU. If we had a lot of snow....which just isn't the case here I would love to use a larger truck and blade. (we get like 30" per year LOL)

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                  • #10
                    Mr. Skaper shows us a flat lot w/med. snow totals, which as Jack D. stated would not be a huge problem for a back loaded 2WD.

                    Please remember, many snow contractors must deal with less than ideal push scenarios where 4 Wheel Traction can mean the difference between a night lost and one where routes are completed in time for last call.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the help so far guys!

                      Hey Scaper! How long of a wheel base is that?

                      I have been looking for a couple of days online for a Mitsubishi FG 4WD. I have yet to find a used one. Anyone know of a website I should look at?

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                      • #12
                        do a search on fleet sales + Mits... you will turn up something, however finding a used allwheel drive will be tough.

                        Good Luckl
                        P.s. there is a place in Texas that usually has a bunch of 2wds some with landscaping beds

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                        • #13
                          i use my 01 silverado 4x2 to plow its only got a v6 but it does pretty good i just load the back with about 1000 pounds of sand bags and i am ready to go we only get about 20-25 inches of snow a year max so it does just fine for now

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                          • #14
                            I didn't think it snowed even that much in AR.

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                            • #15
                              its doesnt snow taht much each year but we have had a few taht were 25-30 inches in a year i live in the northwest arkansas so we get more snow then other parts do the get mostley ice past fort smith
                              but when it does snow my truck does its job

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