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**Scaper-S2k** · 07-20-02, 08:33 PM

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Wow, so if the top blade doesn't actually cut the grass, then why have it?? Sorry, it would cut the grass just as much at the lower blade, if not more. When the blade is cut, it goes UP in the deck. So, the upper blade would, if anything cut MORE grass.

I'm going to see if I can't start pushing triples or quads!!! Yeh, quads!!! As for bogging down the engine? no problem, I'll just run pure ethanol through the cylinders, that should really get the tips spinning!!! Hmmmm, then I could cut at maybe 20 mph?? Oh, this is gonnna really speed things up for me! Triples or quads and a souped up Kawasaki!

Wonder if I can put headers on that Kawasaki to increase exhaust flow?

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**Zack** · 07-20-02, 08:58 PM

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Wow, so if the top blade doesn't actually cut the grass, then why have it?? Sorry, it would cut the grass just as much at the lower blade, if not more. When the blade is cut, it goes UP in the deck. So, the upper blade would, if anything cut MORE grass.

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I'll try and explain this in more simple language. The bottom blade cuts the actual grass plant. This is the only cut that necessitates a sharp blade. The top blade, since it is higher, does not cut the grass plant, it cuts the clippings into finer pieces. It really doesn't matter, Shlep, if the clippings are cut by a sharp blade. If using a gator on top, sharpness of top blade is even less important.

**Scaper-S2k** · 07-21-02, 12:22 AM

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Sorry Zick, I didn't know you were after the 'cole slaw' look cut.

Ya know why it stripes better with doubles? Picture this if you will: Being that the blade tips are the same length, you can just as well say the dull top blade cuts the blade first....think about that and you'll see I am correct. Then becuase the sharp blade is less than 1/4 inch lower for the "clean cut", it simple pushes the blade down, which gives the heavy stripe look!! That my friend is a fact!

Picture if you will.....If you cut a 6' tall weed with a single sword. Cutting in the middle gives a clean cut. Trying to take the top inch off of the weed would simply push it forward........just like the grass. They stripe better, that's it. But you have posted that striping hurts lawns....remember?

"Uhhhh Uhhhhh Uhhhhhh"

Yeh.

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**Scaper-S2k** · 07-21-02, 12:27 AM

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Okay, I found it!

Zack, you said to use doubles right? You said if you must stripe, use doubles to do it, right?

Which means your doubles stripe lawns better?

But then you say this......
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Striping is the scourge of the lawncare industry & the pacifier of the solo op.. Not only does this practice give the lawn an unnatural look but it can also be damaging to the turf in extreme drought conditions.
If you must attempt this production killing practice, use double blades and attach one of these montrosities to your mower.
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So, I assume your lawns look unnatural and damaged?

Hmmmmmm, I must be confused.

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**Zack** · 07-21-02, 01:21 AM

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Picture this if you will: Being that the blade tips are the same length, you can just as well say the dull top blade cuts the blade first

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If you insist on this misconception then you would still only have one set of blades that need to be sharp.

The lift ensures the bottom blade makes the final cut on the grass.

I can only assume you are using a file or bench grinder to sharpen, being so concerned with occasionally sharpening an extra set of blades. You may want to look into purchasing a designated blade grinder.

**Scaper-S2k** · 07-21-02, 11:03 AM

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I won't argue it, if they are both the same length, you can't tell me that the dull one is not ripping the blade first and hoping the sharp one cuts the top 1/8 inch of ripped grass off.

So anyway, what is it, are doubles good and stripe better, or does striping damage the lawn and make it look unnatural?

The picture at the site below was taken about 6 years ago when we use to mow residential. No doubles, no stripe kit. One of my employees cut it.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/27330093/28575034rughryBiQZ

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**Zack** · 07-21-02, 03:01 PM

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Shleppy, try this.
Next spring when you get some long thick growth, put double low-lifts on your prized 36" Toro belt. Or this fall put a couple gators on with a mulch kit when doing leaves. Although, I'm guessing you enjoy hauling leaves so as to justify your bloated cabovers. Until then you're just guessing.

**Chuck Sinclair** · 07-21-02, 04:32 PM

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Eric (Scaper-S2k)

You sure enjoy making Zack look like an idiot don't you.
Granted its not hard to do, and at least you having FUN!!!

**Scaper-S2k** · 07-21-02, 05:39 PM

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Chuck, It's actually quite fun, and very easy. When he can't prove me wrong, he drops the subject, changes the subject, or switches his original story!

Zick, you said to use doubles for better stripes, you said you use doubles all the time, you then said stripes were for scrubs and damage the turf and make it look unnatural!!! So where does that put you?

As for which blade hits the grass first? If they are both the same lenght of blade (right?), you CAN NOT tell me which one cuts the grass first!!! Duh.

By the way, my commercial sites are very small ones (as I have told you). We don't need to worry about leaves! Oh, and they have a dumpster on each site that we can use!

Of course doubles will help with leaves, no doubt. So, why not go ahead and try running triples, or quads??????? Hey, ya think I can get 6 or 7 blades on each spindle??

Hey wait, maybe I can 'sandwich' a circular saw blade between a set of gators??!! Yeh, then I could mulch up sticks, pine cones, and particle board too!! Yeh, that's the ticket! And we all know circular saw blades stripe better!!

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**Zack** · 07-21-02, 05:54 PM

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Chuck, you and Gusbuster getting lonely?

Shlep, there usually isn't drought conditions in the spring & it really doesn't matter in the fall. Duh!

Edited by - zack on Jul 21 2002 4:58:21 PM

**Scaper-S2k** · 07-21-02, 11:43 PM

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What?

What does that have to do with doubles??

Heck, I'll add one to your list....

The sun is usually out during the day, and the moon at night. Duh.

How'd I do, did I change the subject okay?

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**Zack** · 07-22-02, 01:03 AM

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Please do not twist my words to support your nonsensicle arguements.

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Not only does this practice give the lawn an unnatural look but it can also be damaging to the turf in EXTREME DROUGHT conditions.
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Use them only spring & fall when needed.

I supose your European background limits acceptence of new, progressive ideas.

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Edited by - zack on Jul 22 2002 12:10:21 AM

**Scaper-S2k** · 07-22-02, 09:31 AM

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So then 'your' doubles give the lawn an unnatural look??

So, you take the doubles off during the summer??

So, your background limits you to 'reject' goofy ideas??

So, what do you think about those circular saw blades??

So.

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**Zack** · 07-22-02, 11:31 PM

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Play the movie Shlep.

http://www.uark.edu/misc/julio/bouncing_ball/bouncing_ball.html

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